on iran or have gone himself, you know, had the united states take out those nuclear facilities. if he has a strong position and he felt that was the right position, and he was vetoed by the president, you follow the president when you were in there, but when you leave and write your memoirs i it's fair to say this is what i thought should be done, and here's what i said? >> tom, doesn't the loyalty extend to history, doesn't it extend to the time after office? >> well, up to a point i would say, lawrence. of course, i think the bush clan would say that. i mean, the bush -- >> how is the bush clan going to react to this? >> bush clan as you well know prides loyalty over every other factor, over competence and everything else, so unless this is a big distortion of where cheney really is going to be, i think the bush people will think this is an act of disloyalty. on the other hand, one thing that resonated with me about this story was something that happened to me that is very similar to an incident in this story where cheney years ago, maybe 25 years ago, said to me he would never write a